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AA 77W / 777-300ER Business & First Class / F & J seat (master thread)

Old Nov 26, 17, 7:05 pm - Wikipost
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All About "77W" / Boeing 777-323ER Business and First Class / F & J seats

Link to Economy / Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra seating thread.

All First and Business seats recline to horizontally flat, have full aisle access and are isolated from other seats; they offer folding flat screen AVOD with touchscreen monitor that offers on-demand entertainment with up to 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games, 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi is offered for sale. Bose® QuietComfort® Acoustic Noise Cancelling® headphones are available for use in flight (generally picked up an hour prior to arrival), and both cabins feature a walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments.

First Class seating

Eight First Class Flagship suites by Zodiac, though they are not as spacious a seat as the unrefurbished 772 F suite, offer 82” / 208 cm of pitch and 36” width in a herringbone 1-2-1 configuration; they become a fully horizontal 6’ 8” bed with retractable arm rests extending the width; turndown service provides a mattress pad, pillow, duvet, amenity kit and pajamas. Seats swivel, diners in D-G First suites can dine face to face with privacy screen lowered. Each suite has two folding tables.
  • A and D, and G and J are not aligned / are slightly offset (contrary to Seatguru and other seat charts).
  • D and G pairs have a high privacy screen that can be raised / lowered.
  • Note that 1D and G have no bins, so bin contention does occur (unlike 772 F)
Link to Ben Schlappig aka Lucky / The Boarding Area review of AA 77W F seat

Link to Rocky Horan's review of 77W F seat and service on Travel Codex


AA gallery link

There are a large folding flat 17" touch screen AVOD, two 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input ( red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic eXport jack (see here). The seat controls are in an iPhone like touch controller.


c/o Airline Reporter link


First Class Flagship Suite c/o Airline Reporter link

F mini-cabinet with connectionsc/o Airline Reporter link
Business class seats

The Boeing 777-323ER / 77W has the best Business seats in the AA fleet, all with aisle access and fully horizontal flat seats. 52 standard (unmodified) Zodiac "Cirrus" Business Suite seats (similar to those offered by Cathay Pacific and EVA) feature 75” pitch, 26” wide (at its widest point, so less in actuality) fully horizontal seats in a 1-2-1 "pod" configuration offer full AVOD through large flat folding screens and a Panasonic eX2 IFE system, retractable aisle arm rests. The seats move forward and aft to adjust distance fro service table, etc. The three prong Bose headset jack is behind a small stowage door at shoulder height that holds the Bose noise reducing headsets, personal light and air vent, 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input ( red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic eXport jack link), touch seat controls, AVOD corded hand controller. Some storage, including shoe stowage, is available. The center seat pairs do not provide close seating for couples.

Link to JPA Design Zodiac Aerospace Cirrus Business Class seat page.

Business Class Seats are Zodiac Aerospace "Cirrus" seats (similar to CX)
  • 3A-J people like privacy, only single window
  • 4A-4J too noisy (galley and lav close) for some
  • rows 3 and 4 have reports of being somewhat ignored by J cabin crew
  • Row 5 has only single window, close to galley and lavs / noisy
  • Row 7 one window, 7A overhead stowage taken by O2 equipment
  • Row 11 has no windows
  • Row 12 is at the wing root; 13-15 downward views impaired by the wing
  • Row 15 is positioned directly in front of the Economy lavs
Link to The Points Guy 77W J seat and services review by Sarah Silbert and photos by Zach Honig.


AA gallery link



Center Business seat (c/o The Points Guy) link to review


Connectivity by your shoulder
Service caveats: some crew variability, and some crews excessively noisy in the galleys. Applies in F, J including J minicabin.

  • The seat selection sites (seatguru, seatexpert) are often mostly correct, and are not 100% reliable in any case (seatguru has 77W seat chart corrected errors).

  • AA video of 77W First Link

  • Link to The Points Guy Business a Class and seat review with photos and video

  • Link to AA photo gallery, seat map and where 77W flies, and links for 77W

  • Link to (amateurish) Youtube video of 77W seats in mockup

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Old Jan 2, 13, 1:20 am
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AA 77W / 777-300ER Business & First Class / F & J seat (master thread)

Any idea?
I booked LHR-JFK-LHR on the new 77W
Assigned myself 3J and 4J in the small front section of the aircraft, right behind F-Class but not sure this is the best choice since the galley is close by.
Suggestions?
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Old Jan 2, 13, 1:52 am
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Seatguru is quite handy for this sort of thing!

http://seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...777-300_ER.php
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Old Jan 2, 13, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by nall View Post
Seatguru is quite handy for this sort of thing!
... as long as you remember that since nobody has flown as a passenger in the AA configured 77W yet, it is all guesswork right now ...
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Old Jan 2, 13, 2:46 am
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with a 1-2-1 layout, I'd guess a Window Seat beats a middle generally, though a middle seat up front may beat a window seat further back...

Don't you love how the term "Middle Seat" gets redefined in a 2-2-2, 2-1-2, 1-2-1, etc layout?
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Old Jan 2, 13, 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by nall View Post
Seatguru is quite handy for this sort of thing!

http://seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...777-300_ER.php
Seatguru...LOL
For the economy seats, it mentions "but still offer extra space and comfort"

REALLY?
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Old Jan 2, 13, 4:36 am
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This thread has been retitled and will now be the consolidated thread for "best seat" queries for business class on the new 77W. As has been noted upthread, nobody will have definitive information until the aircraft enters service.

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Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
Seatguru...LOL
For the economy seats, it mentions "but still offer extra space and comfort"

REALLY?
Also row 31 is still marked as standard economy seats. These should be the near infinite legroom exit row seats. The real question is if they are better than the Main Cabin Extra row 16 seats.
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Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
Seatguru...LOL
For the economy seats, it mentions "but still offer extra space and comfort"

REALLY?
Also row 31 is still marked as standard economy seats. These should be the near infinite legroom exit row seats. The real question is if they are better than the Main Cabin Extra row 16 seats.
MCE will have the advantage of deplaning first. A huge benefit at some stations where immigration can get very backed up, especially the lines for visitors.
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Related question: will 1A continue to be reserved for pilot crewrest on TATLs, and 1A and 2A on TPACs? I'm hoping not, given that the F cabin is already so much smaller than in the current 772 configuration.
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Originally Posted by norf9 View Post
Also row 31 is still marked as standard economy seats. These should be the near infinite legroom exit row seats. The real question is if they are better than the Main Cabin Extra row 16 seats.
We still need more detail on row 31 as you'll notice the bulkhead that used to be in forward of the cabin door is missing now.

Only photos I've seen of similar configurations elsewhere does not show the same expanse of leg room that use to be there before, but it is not easy to get a good look without being there so we'll just have to wait a little longer ...

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Related question: will 1A continue to be reserved for pilot crewrest on TATLs, and 1A and 2A on TPACs? I'm hoping not, given that the F cabin is already so much smaller than in the current 772 configuration.
I thought the 77Ws has the upstairs crew rest quarters...
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I thought the 77Ws has the upstairs crew rest quarters...
I'm not seeing any F seats blocked on the seat maps I've looked at so hopefully use of the special crew area was in the new contract ...
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77W business class seat selection

Looking at an award ticket from LHR to DFW this fall, Business is wide open but I can't seem to get a good grip on which seats will work better for traveling with wife. It doesn't look like D/H are very accessible to one another and neither are two A or L seats. Is an A/D or H/L pairing my best bet?

Appreciate any input from those lucky enough to fly this plane already.
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Your best bet right now is to stroll over to the US forum and ask how people like the envoy suites and get their feedback. They have the exact same seats. Another place to ask is on CX for those who've flown the new J suites. I think DL also has these on the 747, so there's another place to ask. It looks like your best bet is a window and a middle seat across the aisle from each other. The whole point of this 1-2-1 config is maximum privacy so you may not have much luck traveling with a companion. F does have the suites that rotate though.
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Any "advice" provided is likely to be just guesses since the aeroplane is not in service yet
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